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Auction Catalogs--Going, going gone…

What will I read on the John?

Believe it or not, when we stopped producing full-color glossy catalogs, the first thing I heard from readers was, "I loved the catalogs, what will I read on the john now?" While we had our reasons for discontinuing the printed catalogs, taking away someone's bathroom reading material seemed almost cruel and unusual punishment.

The ever candid and thought provoking Rod Walck, editor of Bottles and More, (bottlemagazine@bottlemagazine.com), the latest and greatest successful effort in the ongoing world of bottles and glass, wrote an excellent article in his June issue talking about this very subject. Rod points out that producing a color catalog is expensive for the auction house and this cost is often passed on in the form of a 12% buyers fee.  It's also time consuming and, with the advent of the Internet, a burden not as imperative as it once was.

American Bottle Auctions was the first of the four bottle auction houses to fold their full-color catalogs and go purely web. Looking back, we were also the first auction house to begin using full-color pictures. Also don't forget, we still send out over 100 full-color printouts each auction, which we print in-house and mail free of charge to those people out there who still don't have a computer, which we dutifully respect. One of them however is not Jack Pelletier. At any rate, I agree with Rod and will add my opinion since he has solicited thought provoking responses.

The catalogs used to cost us anywhere from $7000-12,000 per auction. We sold maybe 500 and sent out another few hundred gratis to antique stores, publications, etc. In addition to the cost of printing the catalogs, we had envelope and mailing costs. This was another fifty cents or so per copy if we sent them out bulk mail, which sometimes took three weeks to reach the East Coast. Since we didn't know how many we would sell, we almost always overprinted, which was like throwing money out the window. In addition to the catalog, we printed a mailer announcing the auction and sent it to over 2,000 people. The printing and mailing was usually around $1500 for the mailer alone. If we had 1000 printed and charged $10 apiece, we would lose $7500 before we sold a bottle.

In addition, it took over two weeks to photograph, layout and prepare the catalog for the printer. For those of you who don't know, putting it together consists of taking the photographs, writing the text and combining them in a computer program such as PageMaker. After that, we take the entire file to a lithographic company who turns our computer file into a tangible form known as color separations. Color separations are four transparent celluloid pages, one red, blue, yellow and black, which, when layered on top of one another on a white background, form the basis of every color in nature. Betcha didn't know that. We would then take all of that to the printer who would turn the separations into a printer ready layout called proofs. They would also provide a blue-line, which is a facsimile of the final magazine, but in a non-reproducible format. In other words, it fades in time, just in case someone got the smart idea to copy it and skip town. From the blue-line we would make any corrections (very expensive) and, if need be, have new proofs made for that particular signature. A signature is four pages laid out side by side in a manner that, when combined with the other signatures, form the entire magazine. By the way, your final magazine has to be an even number of signatures or pages. You can go 16, 32 or 64 and you can also add a signature in the middle of a 32 page magazine but it gets more expensive. If you've ever wondered why you see four color pages in the very center of black and white publications, it's because it contains one color signature with the others being the much less costly black and white.

Eventually, you have a magazine, which, after all this work, inevitably has errors and problems with colors. Taking a color slide and going from that to the computer, then the lithographer and finally having it printed can often lead to some disastrous results. I'm sure those of you who ordered our catalogs remember some problems with color. When you are dealing with something like antique glass, a few shades off and the price can vary by thousands of dollars.

Which brings me to doing it on the computer. For that, we take a digital color photograph, in fact a few of each bottle. We write the description and, for $500 bucks, a webmaster combines it and it goes on the website and out into cyberspace and into your computer. We also, as I pointed out, print color copies at a cost of maybe $100. If there are any errors on the auction website we simply go in and change them, no more difficult than changing a word on the page I'm writing now. Color wrong? No problem. Take another picture or adjust the one you have using a picture-adjusting program like Adobe PhotoShop.

When people go to our website and look at the auction, they can sort through various bottle types, use the search engine to look for a particular bottle or just browse through the whole auction. If they like, they can print out a copy of the auction or just one picture of a bottle. By the way, there are multiple pictures of each bottle and, depending on the size of your computer monitor, average eight inches apiece. With a color catalog, the single picture averaged about two inches in size.

Another factor is the bidding process. When we did the catalogs, we could only take bids by phone, mail or fax. We had an 800 number (another first) and ended up with about $1000 in phone costs. We needed six lines and four people to man the phones the day of the auction. Labor amounted to another $500 for the day and we usually gave bonuses depending on the success of the auction. With the online auction, most bidding is done in cyberspace and costs us zero dollars. It's more efficient since the bidder puts in the bids and can refer to their own bid page, adding or changing their bids whenever they want. In addition, when we did just the catalog, if someone wanted to know what the current bids were on 50 items, it was a tedious task. Now, click a button and every current bid is displayed.

So, clearer, larger and truer-to-life color pictures in an environment that begs for accuracy. Instantaneous access to current bids, including your own bidding page. An ongoing library of past auctions with a search engine to find a particular bottle. A lower buyer's premium since there are no printing costs for the auctioneer (although we never passed that cost along). Most of all, the time and money saved by the auctioneer not having to go through the above described ritual each auction is wonderful.

I still have customers who bemoan the lack of a catalog on our part. With all due respect, humbug! I remember when we first abandoned the catalog, I got a letter which I believe I kept somewhere around the office. It said in essence that they would please like to be taken off the mailing list since we no longer had a color catalog. It also inferred we were cheap, disrespectful of our customers and a menace to society. It bothered me a little bit but everyone has their right to say how they feel. I wonder if the same person ever got around to buying a computer. They might find, like our other readers did, the incredible advantage of online auctions. Not just ours but Ebay, Glass Works Auctions, Norm Heckler Auctions, The Galleria, Bottleshow.com, the inexhaustible Reggie Lynch's site and a new sales site run by Ed and Kathy Gray at www.GreatAntiqueBottles.com, Historic Glass House featuring the knowledgeable Chris House, and many, many more. Not to mention, the vast number of sites that talk about bottles and offer bottles for outright sale. I've included a list of websites to check out for auctions and other places of interest at the end of this article. And, for those of you who still miss our catalog, there's always the newspaper or your favorite magazine in the morning while you're taking care of business.

By  Jeff Wichmann

6/30/05

 

Links to some other auction sites:

http://www.glswrk-auction.com/

http://www.hecklerauction.com/

 www.bottlemagazine.com

 http://www.fohbc.com/

 http://www.bottlebooks.com/

 http://www.down-jersey.com/home2.shtml

 http://www.antiquebottles.com/

 http://www.mindspring.com/~oldbottle/

 http://www.kovel.com/

 http://jardoctor.com/

 http://www.antiqueandcollectible.com/

Reader's comments:

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The glass bottle hobby has enjoyed a switch to the modernization of the internet for their catalogs. This is a luxury that is not shared by many other collecting disciplines. Catalog production by major auction houses is terribly expensive, but an absolute necessity. Jeff has kindly mentioned some of these costs in his commentary, but the reality is the production costs are rising every year, while auction houses cannot raise their sellers and buyers premiums to compensate for these increased costs. The end result is that smaller auction houses MUST evolve into internet only catalogs or they cannot survive.  The larger houses continue to struggle with the absolute need for the printed catalog. Indeed, in our own case (Holabird Americana), a high percentage of our top customers do not participate in internet auctions. The same trend is reflected in the coin business.
 

Few customers are willing to purchase catalogs on a subscription basis, so printed products can only be affordably mailed to active clientele, while utilizing the internet for all others, which is an essential tool. As costs rise, those of us with printed catalogs must continually find ways to reduce our own costs, usually at the expense of something in the catalog itself, such as raising the price of the minimum lot size.
 

Both the private company internet and catalog auctions remain important buying tools for collectors. They provide a reputable and comfortable element in buying, while some international e auction firms are riddled with
fraud, as referenced in Forbes Magazine earlier this year. Customers want a trusted firm to deal with.
 

In summary, catalogs remain a critically important selling tool for most collecting disciplines, particularly for large auctions. Antique bottle collecting enjoys a move to the technological forefront with internet-only catalogs. Both of these areas deserve customer respect, because without the internet, many of the smaller auctions (under perhaps $150,000 per sale) would not exist. Fred Holabird, principal, Holabird Americana

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Jeff-  Not sure what your reference to Jack Pelletier is about, but he has some bottles as do several of us (which includes Mark Vuono, etc.) on www.americanglassexchange.com>. I believe I mentioned a while back, but apparently it did not register in your listing of bottle and glass sites above. Check it out and keep a link handy as we expect this site to grow. Oh yes, my glass and bottle book library now exceeds almost 300+ volumes plus many much earlier bottle catalogs from the Van Renssalaer-McKearin era. I also believe I mentioned our Museum of Connecticut Glass, Inc. web site too which is undergoing reconstruction but still is up and live: www.glassmuseum.org   -Noel Tomas

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Hi Jeff-  I love full-color bottle auction catalogs, buy all I can, and read them over and over again for years after the auction ends. (I own all your old ones.) But, your points are well-taken and thought-provoking, especially the ones concerning the efforts and costs involved in producing and distributing high-quality catalogs. Who knew? Believe it or not, many collectors believe (apparently falsely) that the auction houses make a substantial profit from their catalogs. It's sometimes difficult for we collectors to appreciate the nitty-gritty business end of the hobby but frank articles by dealers like you and Rod Walck give us useful insights. Let's face it: without dealers, collectors would have a much, much tougher row to hoe in building our collections, and without profits, there wouldn't be dealers! By the way, I love your new Website and your columns! Keep up the good work!  -Regards, Mike Dickman

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Hi Jeff:  I like your website, you certainly contribute to the hobby. Although internet on-line bidding is convenient, and may become more widely used in the future, catalogs still have a place in the bottle collecting hobby.Not every one has a computer so these collectors  must have a catalog. When away from home traveling or on vacation, catalogs and the  telephone are essential near the auction closing date.  Its much more convenient to pick up a catalog when you have a little spare time than  to go to the computer room, turn on the computer and key in the needed info to bring  up the on-line catalog.  A misplaced key stroke can be fatal. Catalogs are not just good reference but a least in my opinion a great and descriptive reference.  Where else can you get realistic selling prices of quality bottles ?  Certainly not on Ebay.
Many past auction catalogs have become a collectors item as well as a valuable reference.  Watt White (ink), Greer (medicines), Blask & Gardner (flasks), Ben Swanson Jr. (pot-lids) to mention a few. Catalogs from major collection  auctions such as Burton Spillar, Elmer Smith, and Dan Murphy are a good reference for investment grade bottles.
Would the lower overhead cost of running an on-line only auction benefit the collector ?  Perhaps lower buyers premiums could be expected.
I would like to see auction houses continue to publish catalogs for the high quality auctions.  -Bryan Grapentine

 

Bryan-

All good points.  I have all the catalogs you've mentioned and many of the other catalogs produced over the years, including about 200 books on bottles and glass.  Catalogs certainly do have a place in the hobby and if we had a huge auction we would probably put one together.  It's too bad that they are so expensive and time consuming--we found it so easy to pull a catalog out of the briefcase and browse through it while having our car washed or waiting in an office.  No doubt they generated more income, too. For previous values, we refer to The Auction Price Report by William Brown.  auction@bellsouth.net .  It has prices for most of the bottles sold at auction from the last 10 or so years.  

There might be other less expensive ways to produce catalogs down the road.  Obviously if you have a huge auction such as the Watt White (ink), Greer (medicines), Blaske & Gardner (flasks), Ben Swanson Jr. (pot-lids) collections, as you've mentioned, they should be memorialized in print as a source of information and entertainment. 

Thanks for the feedback.

Jeff

 

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You are a tremendous asset to antique bottle collectors.  Although I agree that you are "...cheap, disrespectful of your customers and a menace to society," your insight is so incredibly appreciated. As a collector of aluminum cans, your column has helped me transcend the barriers in becoming a serious collector. Now, I'll certainly find a way to purchase my very own personal computer. Then, I won't have to have to come to this damn public library.  I guess I'll just have to collect more cans!  -Thanks,  -Trevor in Florida

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2 cents , I love the catalogs , but I like the search engine capabilities more . Kind of like those realists that "can't hear" music unless it's on a reel to reel or still hoard the 8 tracks . Have a good fourth , enjoy,  Bert

 

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